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Gerridoc's avatar

Thank you for your research into US mortality from Covid as well as highlighting the recent article in the Washington Post. The question posed by Medicus is spot on: "How long is it going to take for the public to realize what is happening?"

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Jeremy Faust, MD's avatar

I just hope they realize it before the next pandemic

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Iris Gonzalez's avatar

Those Americans who refuse to mask / vaccinate also believe that anything from a non-right-wing news source is "fake news..."

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Ruthann Rizzi's avatar

What do you make of the Oct 5th NYT newsletter by David Wallace-Wells, where he interviews Dr Michael Mina?

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Jeremy Faust, MD's avatar

I speak to Michael frequently and we see eye-to-eye on virtually everything. He’s incredibly knowledgeable. We are discussing some work together. I thought the Q&A was fascinating and actually quite important.

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Sue Lander's avatar

this was a fascinating newsletter. Thanks for mentioning!

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Medicus's avatar

Thank you for providing this compelling analysis supporting not only the value of vaccination but the argument that partisan politics in the US has supplanted science and common sense, to the detriment of public health. My question is, how long will it take for those in the US whose minds need to be changed and are *able* to be changed to become aware of this truth?

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Jeremy Faust, MD's avatar

I ask myself this often :(

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Seneca Plutarchus's avatar

How did you control for when the various waves of COVID moved through the US prior to Delta? I notice that early states that got hit like New York and New Jersey do much better in early Delta period than even states like California.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11606-023-08374-2/tables/1

If states had more infections prior to the vaccines, they may do better during this study period.

I notice in the graph in this Substack piece there are several outliers in early Delta and Late Delta that have 60%+ vaccine uptake but high excess mortality, are those states that were not hit during the original strain?

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Jeremy Faust, MD's avatar

Very good q. There’s definitely a different pattern in some places depending in part on timing and extent of prior exposures. No one easy answer to your question, but in MA for example we had a pretty mild Delta because of very high vaccine rates and continued mitigation measures. But then Omicron was *worse for us (as we showed in our JAMA paper: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2792738

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